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Old 08-22-2005, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Four Winds Hospital in Katonah, NY

Anyone heard anything about this place? Thanks!
http://www.fourwindshospital.com/wes...stchester.html
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you looking for yourself or someone else?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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For my husband - why?
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just wondered why you were putting in so much effort. Can he not do it himself?
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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LOL - so much effort? By typing a few sentences on a message board?

It is called LOVE.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have heard of the four winds in saratoga. Ive only known of it with children with emotional problems. I have only heard good things about it though. Good luck to you and your husband. Kerry
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No Dremygirl it's not called "love" its called "ENABLING."

If your husband wants recovery, he MUST do this himself, from picking up the phone to call AA or NA to find meetings to web surfing and asking around to find "inpatient" or "outpatient" rehab.

This is really the first step for someone who "wants" recovery. If any of these things are done for them, it is the "easier, softer way" and the chances are less of the person succeeding in recovery.

I know, I have been there both as a recovering alcoholic with 24+ of sobriety now, and 21+ years in alanon as I have had and have practicing alkies/addicts in my life also.

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Old 08-22-2005, 03:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You beat me to it Laurie! That's why I asked, Dreamygirl. Love is when they do their research, call the insurance company, arrange to go in and you make them a cup of tea whilst they're doing it, give them a great big hug and say yes when they ask for a ride.
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=laurie6781]No Dremygirl it's not called "love" its called "ENABLING."
If your husband wants recovery, he MUST do this himself, from picking up the phone to call AA or NA to find meetings to web surfing and asking around to find "inpatient" or "outpatient" rehab.

Thanks for your opinion but WHOA - easy does it with the quick to judge
enabling response!

Who ever said HE did not pick up the phone himself?
Not me!!! Already done the enabling thing myself. Been there - done that. Enabled for 8 months - the only 8 months I ever lived with him. And I moved out. Many enable for 20-20-40 years, I was lucky and got into
Alanon and soon realized what I needed to do.

He is still my husband, we still speak and see each other on a modified
basis, but he has his own program. He went to outpatient all by himself and joined that program. He found AA meetings himsef. HE called
me and said outpatient is not enough, he needs more - he needs
inpatient. I did not do any of it - infact by not being there, I believe
it forced him to realize what he will lose if he continues to drink.

I happen to see a psychologist who specializes in alcoholism for me as
the spouse of an alcoholic. He suggested Four Winds to me for my husband and to my husband himself. All I did was ask a few people on here if they heard of it. I didn't call, he called to see if they accepted our insurance.
Once he gets a referall - on his own, he will call and make the
reservation himself.

I just asked if anyone heard of it. Sorry, don't agree with you,
that is not enabling and please don't be so quick to judge and define what others are doing. At times this can do more harm than good, as there
is never any one/absolutely correct way to do things. Many have
experience as recovering A's and children or spouses of A's - but
situations do vary. I have seen PROOF of this as so many people on
various boards went on and on about rock bottom, people not getting
help until such and such - but it simply isn't that black and white. I
am proof of that in my own situation.

I happen to feel that it is always good to know if others have
heard something about a particular place - period. It is not enabling.
(In my opinion) Thanks for your opinion though -

And thank you Kerry for the good luck!
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You beat me to it Laurie! That's why I asked, Dreamygirl. Love is when they do their research, call the insurance company, arrange to go in and you make them a cup of tea whilst they're doing it, give them a great big hug and say yes when they ask for a ride.
Hi Minnie - thanks anyway, I appreciate what you were trying to do.
But please see answer #9 - it covers your response as well as Lauries.
Don't worry - I won't hold it against ya tho! LOL.
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Geez Minnie, I refused to even do that!
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I never got the chance, Judy, but I think I might have done it through gritted teeth if push came to shove!

dreamygirl - hon, I wasn't trying to pick a fight and I'm glad you didn't see it that way. I was just curious as to why you were asking, rather than him. I hope everything works out OK.
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Anyone heard anything about this place? Thanks!
http://www.fourwindshospital.com/wes...stchester.html
You are CORRECT .... it is in Katonah (Westchester County, NY)!

I have not heard about it, personally, but know of a friend who's roommate WORKS there ..... if you'd like I can ask him anything you'd like. I'll be seeing him this evening (the young man who works there!)

Tell me, specifically, what you'd like to know; and I'd be glad to ask. Do you want to know whether it's a good rehab/detox center or anything else? I do know it is also a psychiatric center for both adults and adolescents.

Let me know, and I'll pass on what I find out!

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[QUOTE=findinganewme]You are CORRECT .... it is in Katonah (Westchester County, NY)!

I have not heard about it, personally, but know of a friend who's roommate WORKS there ..... if you'd like I can ask him anything you'd like. I'll be seeing him this evening (the young man who works there!)

Tell me, specifically, what you'd like to know; and I'd be glad to ask. Do you want to know whether it's a good rehab/detox center or anything else? I do know it is also a psychiatric center for both adults and adolescents.

Let me know, and I'll pass on what I find out!

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Thank you so very much Maria!!!! I will send your a private message!
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Old 08-23-2005, 08:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Please do! I'll be seeing this EXCEPTIONAL young man around 5:30 pm (my time in NY ..... didn't check to see where you are)! (I guess you have to be an exceptional human being to work in a hospital that requires sensitivity, caring, and a drive to want to help those in need)

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