http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ Online Support Groups for Addicts, Alcoholics and their Family, Friends and Loved Ones. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:57:13 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/technical-issues/189027-centiyo-malware-warning.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:12:28 GMT I use Safari on my Mac. I started getting malware warnings whenever I enter sobberrecovery... also, if I choose to ignore, everytime I go to a new forum, I get the warning. I googled it and found a... I use Safari on my Mac. I started getting malware warnings whenever I enter sobberrecovery... also, if I choose to ignore, everytime I go to a new forum, I get the warning. I googled it and found a site talking about some plugin that v-bulletin uses... VBSEO (???) IDK... You guys know about this? I also got the warning when I tried to enter another forum while I was investigating.

Mark ]]> Technical Issues Cubile75 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/technical-issues/189027-centiyo-malware-warning.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189026-apology.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:00:04 GMT Yeah, GL had to lock my thread about my AH, it's a good thing cause I was totally freaked out.

I got some councel on it though, figured out what the deal is and how to handle it better next time.

Please accept my apology. I don't want you guys to be hurt by my anger or hold onto it. This is a healing place and we're all at different levels. I want to help not be a pain in the rear... ]]> Friends and Family of Alcoholics transformyself http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189026-apology.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189025-how-whether-tell-my-mom.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:15:17 GMT Last night I got the call I was expecting - that my brother relapsed and is in detox again. It was late - nearly midnight - so I didn't wake my mother. Now it's the next day and I still haven't said anything. Partly this is because there's nothing we can do, so what's the point of confirming her fears that he's gone off the rails again. Partly (mostly) it's because I know it will devastate her, and it hurts so much to be the one who has to bring her that sorrow.

This morning I suggested that we stop trying to make contact with my brother, let him come to us if he wants help. She agreed, but I know she becomes more and more anxious the longer it is that we don't hear from him (and I of course know we won't, at least until he's released from detox). I just don't know if letting her fear the worst is better than her knowing the worst? Is it even my role to tell her (once again, Kevin escapes the painful consequences of his actions and relies on someone else to do the dirty work for him).

I also don't know what we're supposed to do now. Try to get him back into treatment yet again? Do nothing and wait to hear that he's drunk himself to death? ]]> Friends and Family of Alcoholics SadLittleSister http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189025-how-whether-tell-my-mom.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189024-tired-everything-being-so-hard.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:55:25 GMT Hi Everyone.
Ugh, I had a hard morning. I haven't posted an update for a while. It's been nearly 2 months since my xabf moved out and I've been doing better for the past month; as in, not sitting on the couch all day staring at the wall. I've managed to get some things achieved at work and I've seen my friends and been to therapy and started to find some peace.
Unfortunately though, I have to see him now and again because we run a business together. I usually can go in in the mornings before he gets there, but lately we've had to meet a few times. I always end up feeling raw after those meetings. He's very nice to me and I'm very nice to him, but it just hurts. I grieve all over again that I've lost him and that there's nothing I can do about it. I can't stop him from drinking or from living in the way that he is at the moment and I can't make him want our life together. He just doesn't because it doesn't fit in with his habits.
So this morning, already feeling a bit blue because we spent a few hours together yesterday afternoon, I had to drive my kid and her friend into town. There was a detour set up which sent us right past his house. Thanks universe! Well, there was the lovely sight of a woman's car parked outside his house. My daughter looked at me and put her head down. I just tried to smile and tell her that it's all OK. I put a good face on for the rest of the drive but once I had dropped them off I just felt horrible.
I knew that this would happen at some point, but I still feel so betrayed, despite the fact that I wouldn't even take him back at this point!

I think I feel betrayed partly because he's been telling me how he's not so happy at the moment and trying to be disciplined etc and like a fool something inside of me was thinking hurray, maybe this is the first step to dealing with the problem, although I knew very well that this was a long shot. I suppose I'm realizing this morning that although I thought I had detached, I hadn't enough and I was still hoping that we could figure things out in the long term and I was in denial about the fact that I was still hoping.

So, there it is. I'm so tired of feeling sad. I really want a better life than this. ]]> Friends and Family of Alcoholics Free108 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/friends-family-alcoholics/189024-tired-everything-being-so-hard.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/189022-feeling-negated.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:26:37 GMT I seem to be struggling with sobriety and quasi-depression - day 36; I had this fabulous, on-top-the-world almost *high* feeling for 3 weeks post quitting, and now I'm just blah. "Muted" my husband says. Lacking joie de vivre. Boredem is a piece of it certainly. I work 4 days and have 3-day weekends. Its drab outside, hunting season just opened so the woods or road are off limits for walking. Will I always feel this negated? ]]> Newcomers to Recovery watsonc http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/189022-feeling-negated.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189021-big-book-quote.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:08:50 GMT *~*~*~*~*^ Big Book Quote ^*~*~*~*~*


"We needed to ask ourselves but one short question. 'Do I now
believe, or am I even willing to believe, that there is a Power
greater than myself?' As soon as a man can say that he does believe,
or is willing to believe, we emphatically assure him that he is on
his way. It has been repeatedly proven among us that upon this
simple cornerstone a wonderfully effective spiritual structure can be
built."


Alcoholics Anonymous, 1st. Edition
We Agnostics, pg. 47 ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support CarolD http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189021-big-book-quote.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189020-daily-reflections.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:47:04 GMT Daily Reflections A CLASSIC PRAYER Lord, make me a channel for thy peace - that where there is hatred, I may bring love - that where there is wrong. I may bring the spirit of forgiveness -... Daily Reflections


A CLASSIC PRAYER

Lord, make me a channel for thy peace - that where
there is hatred, I may bring love - that where there
is wrong. I may bring the spirit of forgiveness -
that where there is discord, I may bring harmony -
that where there is error, I may bring truth -
that where there is doubt, I may bring faith -
that where there is despair, I may bring hope -
that where there are shadows, I may bring light -
that where there is sadness, I may bring joy.
Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than
to be comforted - to understand, than to be
understood - to love, than to be loved. For it is
by self-forgetting that one finds. It is by
forgiving that one is forgiven. It is by dying
that one awakens to Eternal Life.
Amen.

TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 99

No matter where I am in my spiritual growth, the
St. Francis prayer helps me improve my conscious
contact with the God of my understanding. I think
that one of the great advantages of my faith in
God is that I do not understand Him, or Her, or
It. It may be that my relationship with my Higher
Power is so fruitful that I do not have to understand.
All that I am certain of is that if I work the
Eleventh Step regularly, as best I can, I will
continue to improve my conscious contact, I will
know His will for me, and I will have the power to
carry it out.

Copyright 1990 ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICES, INC. ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support CarolD http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189020-daily-reflections.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189019-24-hours-day.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:39:40 GMT Twenty-Four Hours A Day

A.A. Thought For The Day

I no longer waste money, but try to put it to good
use. Like all of us, when I was drunk, I threw money
around "like a drunken sailor." It gave me a feeling
of importance--a millionaire for a day. But the
morning after, with an empty wallet and perhaps some
undecipherable checks to boot, was a sad awakening.
One of the hardest things to face is the fact of
wasted money. How could I have been such a fool? How
will I ever make it up? Thoughts like these get you
down. When we are sober, we spend our hard earned
money as it should be spent. Although some of us
could be more generous in our A.A. giving, at least
we do not throw it away. Am I making good use of my
money?

Meditation For The Day

You were meant to be at home and comfortable in the
world. Yet some people live a life of quiet
desperation. This is the opposite of being at home
and at peace with the world. Let your peace of mind
be evident to those around you. Men should see that
you are comfortable, and seeing it, know that it
springs from your trust in a higher power. The dull,
hard way of resignation is not God's way. Faith
takes the sting out of the winds of adversity and
brings peace even in the midst of struggle.

Prayer For The Day

I pray that I may be more comfortable in my way
of living. I pray that I may feel more at home and
at peace with myself.

Hazelden Foundation PO Box 176 Center City, MN 55012 ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support CarolD http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189019-24-hours-day.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/189018-i-am-so-scared-sad.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:35:20 GMT I was sober for 9 months, last night I went out with some friends and drank. I am so ashamed, I told my husband and he is angry and disappointed. I don't know if I should tell everyone this happened? My parents? I hate to disappoint them again. I still feel hungover and it's 1:30 pm, I just hate myself. How can I forgive myself? All that time just wasted for one night and now I am so sick. ]]> Newcomers to Recovery Kate123 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/newcomers-recovery/189018-i-am-so-scared-sad.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/where-were-you/189017-still-shaking.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:26:24 GMT I found this place out of pure desperation, after spending yet another night completely smashed and digging around for razors.
At the moment, I'm utterly terrified at the life ive lived and what might happen. Happy to have found this website but afraid of f***ing up yet again. ]]> Where Were You? Delirium http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/where-were-you/189017-still-shaking.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/substance-abuse/189016-two-weeks.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:23:43 GMT Two weeks today and I am sober. Life is better through a clear view. I do take one extended release ultram per day. It's killing the pain caused from my auto immune illness. NO more 15 pills per day. I am really loving feeling in control of my life now. Before I was isolating myself. Well, last week I went out for brunch with a friend and then shopping. Last night I went to the movies with a group of friends. I learned a lesson. You can have fun doing things when you are sober. I used to think that I needed to be high to have fun...all I was doing was sitting on my couch high, thinking about doing stuff. I lost a lot of friends. I am glad I have a handful left that are good, clean, people that want to go out and do things. I got invited to see a band next Friday night with a group of girls at a rotary club...I am finally starting to live again and feel joy doing things that are fun and healthy.

On the down side, today I woke up with the flu. Chills, Fever, aches, not feeling good at all. I hope it is not the swine flu. Two people at my job had it and while they stayed home I am hoping I didn't catch it. The only good thing about having the flu is it's reminding me how I felt two weeks ago while going thru withdrawl. I never want to go through that feeling again if it's not involved with the flu.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend! I will be here, on my couch, drinking lots of fluids and fighting this flu! ]]> Substance Abuse findmyway706 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/substance-abuse/189016-two-weeks.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism/189015-one-more-try.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:44:23 GMT So, yeah posted on this board along time ago and got a lot of great support and advice, still only made it 20 days and then relapsed like crazy, after that I just sort of gave up thinking I was never... So, yeah posted on this board along time ago and got a lot of great support and advice, still only made it 20 days and then relapsed like crazy, after that I just sort of gave up thinking I was never going to shake it.

But recently my health has began to get really bad as my drinking has got worse so after a really crazy binge I have decided to try quitting for good one more time, now after hardly any sleep last night Im craving badly again, so Im wondering what keeps others from slipping up?

I am worried that if I slip again Im not going to have the strengh to give sobriety another try, what with all the guilt and disappointment I feel when I fail, were do you all find the strength from? ]]> Alcoholism cranford http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism/189015-one-more-try.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189014-dating-recovery.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:34:30 GMT I need help w dating in sobriety and recovery. I thought the best way to get healthy help and support might be in this section of the forum. Ive waited nearly three years to get into a... I need help w dating in sobriety and recovery. I thought the best way to get healthy help and support might be in this section of the forum.
Ive waited nearly three years to get into a relationship.
Im feeling a lot of my own fears, doubts and insecurities. As well as some self centered-ness and selfishness.

One thing I read this morning was "that we lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows." ]]> Alcoholism-12 Step Support frstnm http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism-12-step-support/189014-dating-recovery.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism/189013-5-days-then-relapse.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:30:01 GMT me with the bat, to alcohol:

:a043:

grrr

it was a party and someone offered to buy me a drink, and then two guys bought me drinks. well :thanks but no :thanks

i'm in a world of hurt today, pretty much both physically and mentally. any advice appreciated. went into the chat but nobody is around. ]]> Alcoholism chiquen81 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/alcoholism/189013-5-days-then-relapse.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/gratitude-list/189012-promises-do-come-true.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:24:35 GMT A very unexpected thing happened in my life yesterday, My step father and I havent spoke for over 8 years After my moms death. Now im 2 years sober, Turns out he was on my amends list so ive been... A very unexpected thing happened in my life yesterday, My step father and I havent spoke for over 8 years After my moms death. Now im 2 years sober, Turns out he was on my amends list so ive been able to do what i had to in order to start those amends a few months ago. And the other day I was invited to dinner with him and his new wife, to celebrate my sisters and his wife birthday, As a result of being sober and working the program of recovery it seemes my family relations are healing.. Thank you SR, AA, NA, And of course my HP..And for this Im truly Grateful..

Keep commin Back,

Cloud8.5:funjump: ]]> The Gratitude List cloud8 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/gratitude-list/189012-promises-do-come-true.html